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Next version - status update

The long and painful development of version 2.0 is in now the final phase. The alpha version should be available end of July, beta - August, final release in September-October (see the link for more details):

http://www.activewidgets.com/general.faq.releases/2-0.html
Alex (ActiveWidgets)
Tuesday, June 28, 2005
Important detail - current commercial license includes 12 months of free code updates, which means if you buy 1.0.1 now you will get free upgrade to 2.0 (standard) when it is released.

:-)

Alex (ActiveWidgets)
Tuesday, June 28, 2005
I just put a couple of samples of what will be available with ActiveWidgets 2.0:

http://www.activewidgets.com/preview/2.0/examples/dialog.htm
http://www.activewidgets.com/preview/2.0/examples/controls.htm

Please don't forget that this is 'work in progress' and not even alpha yet.

All that does not mean that the focus shifts away from the grid control - the grid (or grids - standard, extended, tree grid etc.) is still central part of the product. But as we need all the small controls as cell editors anyway - why not to release them for form building :-)

Together with your favorite AJAX transport library this should make an interesting application platform...
Alex (ActiveWidgets)
Wednesday, July 6, 2005
Very interesting indeed. Thanks for the update. I just would have liked a better example of how the grid would look like with the editing capabilities etc.

Now I can see why it's taking you a while to develop this, and however cool it does look like, the grid is my main focus and interest at this time, so move your ass ;)
AcidRaZor
Wednesday, July 6, 2005
Nooo no no no, Hey ! wait a second.. Are you telling us that now we need to fight with tabs / footers / Fonts ... etc..
Show me a Mr. Gates autorization for doing so.
I am sure you panned those things "long time ago" with a unique intention, destroy our brains, anyway, so cool ..so pervese.
Thanks
Carlos
Wednesday, July 6, 2005
Microsoft itself started this long time ago with OWA (Outlook Web Access), then Oddpost/Yahoo, then Google, now everyone can make a web application :-)

So it is not rocket science anymore.
Alex (ActiveWidgets)
Wednesday, July 6, 2005
Any paging in the new release?
Marc
Wednesday, July 6, 2005
Can I suggest allowing a hooking of event handlers?

Keyboard event hooking for instance. Make any hook handler return a bool to indicate whether the default handling for that event should additionally be processed or not.

This is very simple, and extremely useful, and the only way to handle things like keyboard events for special key processing without having to reimplement the default keyboard processing.

Cheers
Adrien de Croy
Thursday, July 7, 2005
Looking good.
Thursday, July 7, 2005
> alpha version should be available end of July, beta - August, final
> release in September-October (see the link for more details):

and what about the documentation??? :))

Also, could you please clarify whether v1.0.1 license holders will be entitled to free upgrade to v2.0 standard or professional?

Will the renewed grid control be backwards-compatible with 1.0?

Cheers,
Sergei
Thursday, July 7, 2005
Can you include "Scroll Bar" paging such as we see in this example:

http://www.openrico.org/livegrid.page
Frank
Thursday, July 7, 2005
And man, if this isn't the end of pagination - take that thing and go to the next level. Go ahead and grab 20 extra rows so that single clicks are immediate. Start doing some kinds of AJAX to make scrolling seem more fluid. Oh lord, very very cool.
elsigh
Thursday, July 7, 2005
I would like top offer a suggestion, if possible. one thing that I would be really interested in seeing being added is the ability to add right click menu/options for your grid control. Your grid has made things for my web application easier and better. Keep up the good work.
David D
Friday, July 8, 2005
Will it be a open alpha test or a closed one?
Friday, July 8, 2005
Marc:
version 2.0 will have simple 'classic' paging.

Adrien de Croy:
yes, the event/action module is very much enhanced in 2.0

Sergei:
free upgrade from 1.0/1.0.1 is to 2.0 standard. New grid will not be backwards compatible, but two libraries will run side-by -side on one page if necessary.

Frank:
I will try to do virtual paging (a la Rico) after 2.0, maybe 3.0 :-)

David D:
Menu/toolbar controls are in the plans, but this is also after 2.0

Alpha will be available to all commercial customers (send me email), beta - open.
Alex (ActiveWidgets)
Friday, July 8, 2005
Alex,
Noticed you avoided the question on documentation :)))
Anyways,
> New grid will not be backwards compatible, but two libraries will run
> side-by -side on one page if necessary.
at least we are hoping it will be easy to migrate the project to v2, given there will be adequate docu...(shutting up now).

Cheers,
Sergei
Friday, July 8, 2005
:-))

I hope it will be easy to migrate, the API is mostly the same (but not backwards compatible in exact sense that you can replace the library and still run your code).
Alex (ActiveWidgets)
Friday, July 8, 2005
Dude, with all the crap (well, cool crap) I've extended with the current grid, I can't wait for v2.

Btw, I already have a right click custom context menu running on my grids. Written some cool "History Navigation" to take you back to previous instances of the grid (I load using table.request)

mwha....mwha...mwhahahaha

Btw, Alex, go all out and include those features in v2. Come now man!
AcidRaZor
Friday, July 8, 2005
What will the licensing options be for the "professional" version? Are you planning to lock out open source developers who just want our apps to be able to run on Safari & Konqueror?
Art Cancro
Friday, July 15, 2005
Hi Alex,
You sent us these links
http://www.activewidgets.com/preview/2.0/examples/dialog.htm
http://www.activewidgets.com/preview/2.0/examples/controls.htm
Its looking amazing. Iam Impressed about that style. But I want to point a bug before relasing next version.
Drag the buttons.
Thanks for you works.
But you know Alex, you are late about AJAX.
deb_debe@yahoo.com
Saturday, July 16, 2005
Hi Alex..

I am not realy good in DHTML, but I manage PHP & SQL.. Therfore the grid is great for my apps (even so poorly slow - would the <table> be faster than <div> ???).

Anyway... it makes me go across great idea... Your stylish controls are simply great, but changing their look&feel is a bit problematical. Can we make together simple Database or file driven config file to setup colours or other (skinlike) things ??

ASJ
ASJ
Friday, July 22, 2005
Hello Alex
very impressive for me & my application.
Just want to ask about compatibility with Firefox or Mozilla? I can't see the same think like IE 6.
Firefox 1.0.3 - 1.0.6 & Mozilla 1.7.8
Regards
Jedt Sitthidumrong
Friday, July 29, 2005
ASJ - it already does it's called CSS
Friday, July 29, 2005
I know... but for the LAMA users just using those aps it might be a great idea to let them customize the grid with even no thought of the code, because not every PC user knows how CSS works... :D:D:D

That was what the thought of Database driven skin setup was..

Think of me as a programer.. no problem for me to make a CSS skin or o customize the one already existing (but even for me it is sometimes bit hard to navigate through all the .active...something)

And think of a secretary in your company, that is allways going to you asking for the grid to be blue to fit the blue app screen or be winXP-Like to let her feel as working with real win app...

She then would like to have some way to setup the header color, the grid color, the selected line color.. even some conditional formating...

Getting in now ?

;-)

ASJ
Friday, July 29, 2005
copy and paste function!
copy and paste function!
Monday, August 1, 2005
URL CLICKABLE CELL where url is taken from mysql or other sql
Micha³
Monday, August 1, 2005
Micha, thats already possible with the current version of the grid. Figure it out ;)
AcidRaZor
Monday, August 1, 2005
It can be useful to put functions like "sum" or "avarage" of rows which will be place results into footers for the lazy coders.

Also this kind of structure with group can be also needed by many:

FIRM 1
NUMBER DATE
NUMBER DATE
NUMBER DATE
-- SUB-TOTAL
FIRM 2
NUMBER DATE
NUMBER DATE
-- SUB-TOTAL
TOTAL
Cem
Tuesday, August 2, 2005
Cem,

What you are asking for is a spreadsheet, this is a data grid. There are other companies that make web spreadsheets, I don't feel that this control needs to be a spreadsheet as well as being a great database grid. JMHO
Jim Hunter
Friday, August 5, 2005
I don't see a problem with there been a spread sheet using the frame work but I agree with jim here that the grid shouldn't be it
Tuesday, August 9, 2005
almost beta time?
AcidRaZor
Tuesday, August 16, 2005
hi AcidRaZor,


Could you possibly post your codes with context menu.... i'm having a hard time figuring it out...

i hope you could help me.
glennlosentes
Thursday, August 18, 2005
Took me a while myself. I'll try and get a simple example of it online soon. Will post an example too. First have to find where I put the code. :D
AcidRaZor
Thursday, August 18, 2005
These are really nice controls. I have started working with old version for AJAX and it is working nice. It has given tremendous performance with this grid.

I'm really happy with tis control.

Suggestion: Once we have more than 1000 records it takes too much time to reload table. In this case if something can be done that couple of pages with records will be loaded first then rest of pages will be loaded so user need not to look at white screen for long time.

Thanks
Pat Murphy
Monday, September 19, 2005
Pat, the new version 2.0 with virtual rendering will do what you want. Alex posted a link to a demo of a grid with 1000 rows and it's very fast.
Jim Hunter
Monday, September 19, 2005
Some clear and concise doumentation explaining how to put a URL into a cell.

Heck, some clear and concise documentaiton of -anything-.
Thursday, September 22, 2005
hi, can the datagrid load with virtual rendering taking the data from asp or php?
Eric
Friday, September 23, 2005
Yes but I think you have to implement that bit
J
Friday, September 23, 2005

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